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Re: A Case of Mistaken Identity John Levine  –  May 19, 2008 9:49 AM PST

Does anyone still have only one e-mail address?  I give a different (real) one to every web site that asks for one, so I can tell who's leaking what.

On the other hand, I've certainly also gotten my share of mail intended for people with names similar to mine.  Even though you can't assume that the same person will have the same address, you always need to confirm the addresses that people provide. That's long standing good practice.

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Re: A Case of Mistaken Identity Lynda L. True  –  May 20, 2008 5:29 PM PST

As far as facebook is concerned, your email is your identification. This is true for other social networks like linkedin, and is slowly catching on to many other Web 2.0 services. It actually makes a lot of sense that your unique identifier (your “ID") would be your email — it’s unique by definition, it’s easy to remember and most services need the email information anyway (for example, to send you a password reset). So combining the ‘email’ and ‘username’ fields makes a lot of sense.

Seriously? Just to make sure (I don't use Facebook much), I checked. It's a quick edit, and you're using a different email address. I have changed the primary email account on LinkedIn twice, and I have multiple other email addresses on LinkedIn (for those folk that only know me through one). Your email address is not particularly useful as an identifier, other than for trivial applications such as the currently popular social networks.

I have more than twenty email addresses that I check on a daily basis, and five or so that I check whenever I'm near a computer. I don't use the email on my blackberry often, but it's useful when I need it. Which email address would be my identity?

Email is also *not* private. If you're using one of the free ones, then it's stored on someone else's server. Even if you have a local server, privacy is not necessarily guaranteed. Encryption is the only guarantee of privacy, and even that is easily misused. My PGP key is a unique identifier.

I guess typographical errors in email addresses are something we'll just have to live with. I can understand being disconcerted when random strangers mistake you for another, but it certainly seems careless on the part of the other fellow that such things have occurred. Not near so much a case of mistaken identity as a lack of care on some other Aviram's part.

I cannot believe that email will ever be the same as a social security number. It's uncontrolled, too easy to forge, and there are any number of other issues that would also matter. Long, long ago, I used to think of myself as the only "shrdlu" but even those days are long past.

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Re: A Case of Mistaken Identity Aviram Jenik  –  May 21, 2008 1:05 AM PST

John Levine said:

Does anyone still have only one e-mail address?  I give a different (real) one to every web site that asks for one, so I can tell who's leaking what.

Yup. Isn't qmail awesome :-)

I'm betting you'll have to start getting used to one email address, though. I used to create usernames like: aviram-servicename@mydomain.com but then when I had to login I couldn't remember what I put as the 'servicename' and which domain I used. Slowly I'm realizing that I'm using mainly 2 emails (personal and work) and soon enough I'll be using just one.

So at least in my case it's not the technical issue of having one email address (I have as many as I need) but a convenience of always remembering my username (=my "one" email).

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Re: A Case of Mistaken Identity Aviram Jenik  –  May 21, 2008 1:16 AM PST

Lynda L. True said:

As far as facebook is concerned, your email is your identification.

Seriously? Just to make sure (I don't use Facebook much), I checked. It's a quick edit, and you're using a different email address. I have changed the primary email account on LinkedIn twice, and I have multiple other email addresses on LinkedIn (for those folk that only know me through one). Your email address is not particularly useful as an identifier, other than for trivial applications such as the currently popular social networks.

Not sure what you mean here. I never said you couldn't have multiple emails, only that your email is unique (i.e. no one else has it) and so it's a convenient login name.

I have more than twenty email addresses that I check on a daily basis, and five or so that I check whenever I'm near a computer. I don't use the email on my blackberry often, but it's useful when I need it. Which email address would be my identity?

I'm with you here. But read my answer to John - I have a feeling that soon enough we'll all have to merge into one or two email addresses that "identify" us, just like you give out a certain physical mailing address even if you spend a lot of time at your sister's.

Email is also *not* private. If you're using one of the free ones, then it's stored on someone else's server. Even if you have a local server, privacy is not necessarily guaranteed. Encryption is the only guarantee of privacy, and even that is easily misused. My PGP key is a unique identifier.

I disagree. Email *is* private. Maybe it's not secure, but it's private. If your email provider is reading your emails they might be breaking the law. Just like your medical records are private even though they are written in plain text and sit in an easily accessible drawer somewhere.

I cannot believe that email will ever be the same as a social security number. It's uncontrolled, too easy to forge, and there are any number of other issues that would also matter. Long, long ago, I used to think of myself as the only "shrdlu" but even those days are long past.

Much of what you said is true for 7 numeric digits that make up your social security number. And even if shrdlu is not unique, I'm pretty sure shrdlu@yourdomain is unique.

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Re: A Case of Mistaken Identity John Levine  –  May 21, 2008 3:39 AM PST

Aviram Jenik said:

I'm betting you'll have to start getting used to one email address, though. I used to create usernames like: aviram-servicename@mydomain.com but then when I had to login I couldn't remember what I put as the 'servicename' and which domain I used.

I've found the exact opposite.  I use the name of each site to invent an address, and only use my real address when corresponding with individuals.  As far as remembering what address goes with what site if your addresses weren't memorable enough, gee, maybe we could use a computer or something to keep track of them.

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