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Sorry, this article doesn't make Kevin Ohashi  –  Jul 29, 2008 11:23 AM PST

Sorry, this article doesn't make sense.  You are connecting typosquatting with botnets.  Let's be upfront, domain parking is easy to get into and at most places you can simply choose the keywords. 
'cybersquatting still does the magic by including the targeted word in the domain name itself, so that no junk content generation courtesy of a blackhat SEO tool is needed. '

Why would someone with a botnet need to cybersquat to get proper high paying keywords?  They could more effectively register keyword1-keyword2-keyword3.com and just use that.  it seems almost stupid to cybersquat and use the botnet.  one could avoid the cybersquatting problems altogether with little/no added effort.

I am not condoning this behavior, it hurts legitimate PPC parking, but I am just saying associating the two doesn't make sense.  You have basically taken 2 problems and combined them with little/no evidence.  Yes, both exist, but are they connected?  How?

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stupid Eric Rice  –  Jul 29, 2008 12:23 PM PST

This is another dumb post written by someone who doesn't know what they are saying.  The click fraud people do not use infringing domains in 90% of cases.  They simply use a domain with a keyword for the clicks they want.  TM infrinnging with parked pages and click fraud on parked pages are totally different.

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Dacho Danches knows what he is talking Gadi Evron  –  Aug 06, 2008 4:12 PM PST

Dacho Danches knows what he is talking about, as he researches it actively, in the wild, for years now.

When he talks, I listen. Ego Inside--when it comes to cyber crime, if someone gets *me* to listen, you should too.

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You clearly didn't read what he wrote Kevin Ohashi  –  Aug 06, 2008 4:41 PM PST

You clearly didn't read what he wrote then.  He has two separate ideas which aren't connected but he simply assumes there is, wrongfully.  Why should I listen to someone writing about something they aren't familiar with?  Maybe he understands security but this isn't a security issue.  When I am sick I don't call my real estate agent for help.

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Parked domains, issue one.Click-fraud, issue two.Typo-squatting, issue Gadi Evron  –  Aug 06, 2008 4:45 PM PST

Parked domains, issue one.
Click-fraud, issue two.
Typo-squatting, issue 1.5

They two may not be the same, but one is used on the other. They don't wait for users to fall on to their scams, they bring their own users.

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You think someone registers typo domains and Kevin Ohashi  –  Aug 06, 2008 4:59 PM PST

You think someone registers typo domains and then uses click fraud?  That is stupid.  Why put 2 targets on the back of your head when you can get away with only 1?  If I am going to perform click fraud why use a typo domain?  There is no connection there.  You can set your keywords at virtually any parking program manually, the argument that using typo squatted domain to get good keywords is simply false.  His only connection is this line: "cybersquatting still does the magic by including the targeted word in the domain name itself, so that no junk content generation courtesy of a blackhat SEO tool is needed." Which if you had any experience with domain parking (PPC) you would know this is wrong.  As I have stated you can pick the keywords manually.  Sorry, but the author doesn't know what he is talking about and neither do you.

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I may not know what I am Gadi Evron  –  Aug 06, 2008 5:03 PM PST

I may not know what I am talking about, I am known to babble and soemtimes even drool.

So, you register a domain, make it more likely to get hits suing typosquating, then get some ads.. and do click fraud to make more money for you, or cheat your clients. What are we missing here?

I suppose we will have to wait for some clarification from Mr. Danchev.

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People cybersquat because typo domains get lots Kevin Ohashi  –  Aug 06, 2008 5:07 PM PST

People cybersquat because typo domains get lots of natural traffic (real traffic of people mistyping) and they profit that way off pay per click.

Click fraud people use bots and fraudulent methods to generate those clicks.

From each's perspective, if I am a cybersquatter, why bring fraud traffic to my legitimate (well real visitors) to my site, it raises alarm bells and gets your domain banned for fraud.  They would want to be under the radar.

From the fraudsters perspective, why use trademark domains why they can be taken away and the owner sued under ACPA for up to $100,000 in damages?

Doesn't make sense for either to use the other.

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Kevin, that makes sense. Thank you. Gadi Evron  –  Aug 06, 2008 6:04 PM PST

Kevin, that makes sense. Thank you.

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"I suppose we will have to wait Eric Rice  –  Aug 06, 2008 5:39 PM PST

"I suppose we will have to wait for some clarification from Mr. Danchev."

Well if he claims that you register TM domains to perpetuate click fraud then he is clearly not very well versed in internet security, fraud or anything else to do with the subject.  No fraudster wastes their time registering tm domains to do click fraud on, they would just register a domain with keywords…

Click fraud is way, way, way overrated anyway… maybe 5-15% of all clicks and Google and Yahoo take it into account anyway with the advertisers.  I used to mail millions of pieces of direct mail and 15% of mail is returned undeliverable.,..not buddy cried about it.  Most traffic is good and peopple are closing sales or people would stop doing it.

where did this guy work security?  walmart?

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