Re: When Will The Internet Be Divided Among Nations?JFC Morfin – Jul 26, 2005 9:37 AM PST
We all know that everyone can run his own root and that sending the root file to every user or maintaining it at every PC (as for an anti-virus base) would cost ten times less bandwidth than the root servers today.
Today most users trust the Internet system as it is. More and more people are going to distrust it as it is, because WHILE it is not in their language and they do not understand it, SOME others will better use it, now multilingualism becomes an issue, Vint Cerf acknowledged it and WGIG made it an awckwardly described priority. Do you really have a problem connecting an Arabic site in using an Arabic name from your own machine today? More and more will understand it, and some will help them as a service, since IETF only came with confusing un manageable IDNA.
The stability of the network is not engaged. But the credibility of the DNS and the appeal of the DNs are at stake.
This will then come back to TMs. The error of ICANN has been to make millions activists or informed people believe TMs were the bad guys preventing them to purchase DNs. Once DNs are gone, or partly gone, what will prevent the mess? How will I use Google?
The key of a network is its directory. The directory is not the root. The directory is the IANA file. And the (very near) future is to distributed IANA services, offering IANA matrices. The same as many private systems legitimately run their private alt-roots (cf. ICP-3).
The trigger might be the commercial approach of the langtags (languages tags) some hope impose to the IANA (IETF WG-ltru). This is a very sensible issue (totally orthogonal to developers minds). This will lead Web pages to call on IANA language (biased) documentation - or on extended Open Source documentation, since full ISO 639-6 20.000 languages support and ISO 11179 compliance will not be provided to protect a scarcity benefitting to dominant sources. Open Source extended IANA will provide it. And will often be considered as national resistance.
In proposing more, better, faster services in a key to most area, these CRCs (common reference centers) will probably educate users to trust and use value added mirrors to IANA. For years, I daily document the true root file (the one one can obtain from the ccTLD Managers files - including national TLDs when available by the local community representative authority [Gov/ccTLD]and documented on NTIA listed name servers). Anyone can use my http://nicso.org/intlroot.txt and add its own TLDs, etc.
But let understand something: every country is far more interested (like the USA - http://whitehouse.gov/pcipb) in protecting a secure and stable access to its critical and key indutrial infrastructure systems than in sharing into the domain name "industry".
Re: When Will The Internet Be Divided Among Nations?Howard Li – Aug 02, 2005 1:41 AM PST
There is now a wildly spread rumor that many countries are going to balkanize the Internet. And some believe China will be the upfront nation to push the first card of the domino. They reasoned it out using the double digit percentage of annual economic growth in the country. However, to me, it is clearer that the Internet is going to keep as a whole instead of break up into pieces. If one day it does fall apart, it will be a result of those misleading rumors – ever heard of “ a lie can become truth when it’s repeated a thousand times?”
At here, I don’t want to say anything more, ‘cause the quote following can say more about the Chinese’s position on IDNs.
We are of belief that the following points should be highly noted in developing IDNs.
1. The development of MDN should not only ensure the stability and compatibility of the current Domain Name System, but also should guarantee the interests of those language users and respect the policy mechanisms of local society where majority specific language users live, such as politics, economy, legal system and culture.
2. IDNs are not simply the issue of Technique, but more relevant to Management. Since the fundamental purpose of deployment of IDNs is to serve the demand for non-English speaking Internet communities, IDN management should not be fully controlled by commercial interests. When making the policy of IDN management, those language users should be given the opportunity to voice their opinions on relevant IDNs.
3. Those cooperative organizations formed by the Internet communities who speak native languages other than English should be encouraged to play an important role in relevant IDN management, provided that those organizations operate within the current DNS and under the coordination of ICANN.
We all know that everyone can run his own root and that sending the root file to every user or maintaining it at every PC (as for an anti-virus base) would cost ten times less bandwidth than the root servers today.
Today most users trust the Internet system as it is. More and more people are going to distrust it as it is, because WHILE it is not in their language and they do not understand it, SOME others will better use it, now multilingualism becomes an issue, Vint Cerf acknowledged it and WGIG made it an awckwardly described priority. Do you really have a problem connecting an Arabic site in using an Arabic name from your own machine today? More and more will understand it, and some will help them as a service, since IETF only came with confusing un manageable IDNA.
The stability of the network is not engaged. But the credibility of the DNS and the appeal of the DNs are at stake.
This will then come back to TMs. The error of ICANN has been to make millions activists or informed people believe TMs were the bad guys preventing them to purchase DNs. Once DNs are gone, or partly gone, what will prevent the mess? How will I use Google?
The key of a network is its directory. The directory is not the root. The directory is the IANA file. And the (very near) future is to distributed IANA services, offering IANA matrices. The same as many private systems legitimately run their private alt-roots (cf. ICP-3).
The trigger might be the commercial approach of the langtags (languages tags) some hope impose to the IANA (IETF WG-ltru). This is a very sensible issue (totally orthogonal to developers minds). This will lead Web pages to call on IANA language (biased) documentation - or on extended Open Source documentation, since full ISO 639-6 20.000 languages support and ISO 11179 compliance will not be provided to protect a scarcity benefitting to dominant sources. Open Source extended IANA will provide it. And will often be considered as national resistance.
In proposing more, better, faster services in a key to most area, these CRCs (common reference centers) will probably educate users to trust and use value added mirrors to IANA. For years, I daily document the true root file (the one one can obtain from the ccTLD Managers files - including national TLDs when available by the local community representative authority [Gov/ccTLD]and documented on NTIA listed name servers). Anyone can use my http://nicso.org/intlroot.txt and add its own TLDs, etc.
But let understand something: every country is far more interested (like the USA - http://whitehouse.gov/pcipb) in protecting a secure and stable access to its critical and key indutrial infrastructure systems than in sharing into the domain name "industry".
Who is then to protect and educate the users?
There is now a wildly spread rumor that many countries are going to balkanize the Internet. And some believe China will be the upfront nation to push the first card of the domino. They reasoned it out using the double digit percentage of annual economic growth in the country. However, to me, it is clearer that the Internet is going to keep as a whole instead of break up into pieces. If one day it does fall apart, it will be a result of those misleading rumors – ever heard of “ a lie can become truth when it’s repeated a thousand times?”
At here, I don’t want to say anything more, ‘cause the quote following can say more about the Chinese’s position on IDNs.
We are of belief that the following points should be highly noted in developing IDNs.
1. The development of MDN should not only ensure the stability and compatibility of the current Domain Name System, but also should guarantee the interests of those language users and respect the policy mechanisms of local society where majority specific language users live, such as politics, economy, legal system and culture.
2. IDNs are not simply the issue of Technique, but more relevant to Management. Since the fundamental purpose of deployment of IDNs is to serve the demand for non-English speaking Internet communities, IDN management should not be fully controlled by commercial interests. When making the policy of IDN management, those language users should be given the opportunity to voice their opinions on relevant IDNs.
3. Those cooperative organizations formed by the Internet communities who speak native languages other than English should be encouraged to play an important role in relevant IDN management, provided that those organizations operate within the current DNS and under the coordination of ICANN.
Anyone who are interested in reading the full article, you can find it at CNNIC’s website
http://www.cnnic.cn/html/Dir/2001/11/17/0462.htm